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and vice-president joe biden. i'm live in the spin room at centre college in denville, kentucky. i'm bret baier. inside the debate hall, it's an intimate setting, the same stage where joe lieberman debated in 2000. there is a lots of excitement and anticipation from both sides, with many democrats expecting vice-president biden, an experienced debater to try to go on the offensive to make up for the lackluster performance of president barack obama. for paul ryan, it's his first debate on the national stage. the budget wizz is described by many as comfortable in his own skin when it comes to describing the weeds of budget policy. but how comfortable he is in defending romney policies across the board in depth is really tonight's test. the moderator, senior foreign affairs correspondent. martha raddatz. the debate will focus on a host of issues. but since foreign policy is her strength, the going bet here is that she starts with that. >> we will find out in just a moment. let's bring in our panel. steve hayes and former howard dean campaign manager, joe trippi. gentlemen, what should we be

contra lavado de dineroe inicia el endeavour su ultimo viaje el democrata joe biden y el republicano paul ryan, defendieron con vehencia sus diferentes puntos de vista en el unico debate vicepresidencdial que tuvo lugar en danville, kentucky.el senado de mexico aprobo una ley federal que otorgaria mas armas al estado para golpear las finanzas de los poderosos carteles del narcotrafico y luchar contra el lavado de dinero.y el transbordador endeavour abandona hoy el aeropuerto de los angeles para ser trasladado durante dos dias por carretera hasta el centro de ciencia de los angeles.la primera informacion en despierta america

stopped losing the election. and joe has been called to come in here and be the happy warrior. but let's be generous to mitt romney for one moment. we'll give him the state that are within the margin of error. we're going to give the president new hampshire, ohio iowa, and then what we're going to do is give colorado to mitt romney, and then look what happens. all of a sudden what happens in vegas, doesn't necessarily stay in vegas on election night. whoever wins nevada goes on to the presidency. this paints a picture of how difficult it is going to be. electorally, it is still a big flog for governor romney. >> cenk: michael what you just said is really interesting, but it goes to show how much it is for romney because the president isn't going to lose wisconsin. >> okay. he is not going to lose wisconsin. >> cenk: if things go anywhere near normal. >> yeah. >> cenk: can you put wisconsin back in the category of the president -- >> yeah, if i give wisconsin and ohio to the president, and give romney virginia -- give him the south, virginia north carolina florida

. that is what this is all about. >> i want to thank you as well, martha. i want to thank you, joe. it has been an honor to engage in the critical debate. we face a very big choice. what kind of country are we going to be? what kind of country are we going to give our kids? president obama had his chance. he made his choices. his economic agenda, more spending, borrowing, higher taxes, a government takeover of health care -- it is not working. it has failed to create the jobs we need. 23 million americans are looking for work today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we are offering real reforms for a real recovery for every american. mitt romney, his experience, his ideas, his solutions is uniquely qualified to get the job done. at a time we have a jobs crisis until a america, would it not be nice to have a job creator in the white house? the choice is clear. a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic growing economy that provides opportunity and jobs. mitt romney and i will not duck the t

person to debate joe biden over the last five years. >> steve: we continue the conversation on twitter. >> gretchen: have a great weekend. >> steve: see you monday. good morning, everybody. welcome to friday because the vp nominees went to a to toe for 90 minutes man did they come ready to rumble. vice president joe biden looking to reverse his campaign's downward slide. republican nominee paul ryan trying to build on team romney's momentum. that is how it started last night. this morning we end. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to friday edition of "america's newsroom." martha is out. >> i'm jamie colby out for martha they provided points and issues on zingers and economy and debate decorum. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> with regard to social security, we will not, we will not privatize it. if we listened to governor romney and congressman during the bush years, man where all those seniors would be now if there money had been in the market. their ideas

tonight. a lot of ground to cover. joe biden laughing seemingly uncontrol bli. rude, condescending. how will this play out? we have substance issues a lot of the american people might not ab ware of. he said bengazy that they hadn't requested security? that is inaccurate. first, our good friend frank luntz is standing by in ohio. take it away. >> okay. we've got 26 of you. i want to et is the stage. who voted for barack obama in 2008? raise your hand. who voted for john mccain in 2008? okay. so this is a group leaning towards obama. it's important. all of you are undecided. correct? let's do this. i want to do a word to describe paul ryan's performance tonight. >> paul ryan an awesome opponent. >> quickly. >> i thought he did a good job. >> go ahead. >> i thought ryan and martha allowed biden to interrupt too often. >> unfocused. >> i felt like he was confident and respectful. >> and i think he was looking scared. >> prepared. >> deb onyair. >> deb onyair. -- so talking about biden interrupting and occasional laughing. did you see that? is that obvious to you? >> i thought it's disrespe

>> sentence. >> that's okay. joe biden with a lot of smiles. and the dentist was the real win. >> we'll break it down. great show. have a great weekend. >> "fox and friends" starts right now. >> gretchen: lots of pearly whites last night. good morning, everyone. today is friday. october 12th. i am gretchen carlson thanks for shared up the day with us. paul ryan has debate advice. >> more people signed up for medicare after the change. >> no body -- i know i know you're under a lot of duress. >> did biden's demeanor cost him the victory . we report and you decide. >> steve: vice-president biden telling us who is to blame for the botched consulate attack. he said the intelligence community and sy. here is a comment that had back scratchers scratching -- fact scratchers scratching their head. >> brian: wait until you hear who won an award. "fox and friends" starsts right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> steve: yeah. the debate just ended. the president of the united states said at the last debate he had with mitt romney he was too polite. joe biden last night didn't have that p

house last night. alex rodriguez or raul ibanez. >> the evidence speaks for itself. "morning joe" starts right now. >> the only way you can find $5 trillion in loopholes is cut the mortgage deduction for middle-class people, cut the health care deduction of middle-class people. take away their ability to get a tax break to send their kids to college. that's why they arrived. >> is he wrong about that? >> he is wrong about that. you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve important references for middle-class taxpayers. >> it isn't mathematically possible. >> it isn't. it's been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple times. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> okay. good morning. >> i missed that one. >> good morning. welcome to "morning joe." it's friday, october 12th. with us on set, we have the former governor of vermont and former chairman of the democratic national committee, howard dean. and contributor to "newsweek" and the daily beast and former adviser to george w. bush, mark mckinnon. >> wait. no, hold on. what is that, willie

, kentucky, tonight, good evening. >> reporter: hey, brian, to you, vice president joe biden will be there at that table, paul ryan the other table. congressman ryan comes into this debate, riding the republican wave of momentum the forward progress is what vp biden hopes to stop in its track. before taking off today, vice president joe biden was in a boxing mood, hinting he wouldn't be the one on the ropes tonight. congressman paul ryan got the rock star treatment tonight, walking the rope line, signing autographs, and posing for pictures. it is the second stage for joe biden. but many are questioning just which joe biden will show up. the emotional guy next door type. >> i don't know what it is like to have a child you're not sure is going to make it. >> reporter: or the feisty guy. they are going to put you back in chains >> i mean, this guy just is not bright he was not at his best last week against mitt romney in denver, the president admitted. there was pressure to score, the maryland congressman played the part of ryan in six mock debates, detailed down to a set. actin

as well, martha. i want to thank you, joe. it has been an honor. we face a big choice. what kind of country are we going to be? what kind of country are we going to give our kids? president obama had his chance and made his choices. his economic agenda, spending, borrowing, higher taxes, a government takeover of health care, it is not working. millions of americans are struggling to work and 15% are in poverty. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. we want to earn your support. we are offering real reforms for every american. mitt romney, his experience, ideas, and solutions are uniquely qualified to get this job done. at a time we have a jobs crisis, wouldn't it be nice to have a jobs creator in the white house? a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic that promotes opportunity and jobs. mitt romney and i will not duck the tough issues are blame others for the next four years. we will take responsibility and we will not try to replace our founding principles. we will reapply our founding principles. the choice is clear,

, martha, danville, kentucky, and centre college. i want to thank you, joe. it's been an honor to face you in this debate. we face a big choice. what kind of country will we be? what kind of country will we give our kids? president obama had his chance, made his choices. more spending, more barrowing, government takeover of health care, it's not working. it's failed to create the jobs we need. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans in poverty. this is not what a real recovery lookeds look. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we're offering real reforms for real recovery for every american. mitt romney experienced, his ideas, solutions, is uniquely qualified to get this job done. we have a job crisis in america, don't we want a job grower in the white house. we want to produce opportunity and jobs. mitt romney and i won't duck the tough issues and blame others for the next four years, we'll take responsibility, and we will not try to replace our founding principles. we will reapply our founding principles. the choice is clear. it rests with you, and we

in denver which featured a lackluster performance by one of the people, vice president joe biden came to play last night. and paul ryan, some could say he held his own. the fireworks flew from the start. >> vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. >> one month ago tonight on the anniversary of 9/11, ambassador chris stevens and three other brave americans were killed in a terrorist attack in benghazi. wasn't this a massive intelligence failure, vice president biden? >> wherever the facts lead us, wherever they lead us, we will make clear to the american public because whatever mistakes were made will not be made again. >> this is becoming more troubling by the day. they first blame the youtube video, now they're trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of malarkey. when there's a crisis we pull together as a nation. even before we knew what happened to the ambassador the governor was holding a press conference, holding a press conference. that's not presidential leadership. >> the debate moved from foreign polic

and to gut medicare. joe biden simply dismantled the romney/ryan world view. but also talk about how the right wingers are trying to make a big deal out of joe biden's smile. so what? i would have been outright laughing in paul ryan's face. joe biden was fed up and who could blame him? >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> and why is that so? >> because not a single thing he said is accurate. >> this is a bunch of stuff. >> what do you mean a bunch of stuff? >> it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> thanks for the translation. okay. >> malarkey. a bunch of stuff. i love it. i love it. biden systematically took apart ryan's arguments for less government, let's accountability, let's community. it got so bad, paul ryan was driven to drink. literally. he went back to that cup of water over and over again. by our last count, at least 21 time. what's the matter there, mr. ryan? got a little cotton mouth? last night the romney/ryan effort was exposed as a shield for the extreme far right and vice president biden drove that point home again and again today, campaigning r

, centre college. i want to thank you, joe. it's been an honor to engage in this critical debate. we face a very big choice. what kind of country are we going to be? what kind of country are we going to give our kids? president obama, he had his chance. he made his choices. his economic agenda, more spending, more borrowing, higher taxes, a government takeover of health care. it's not working. it's failed to create the jobs we need. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are in poverty. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we're offering real reforms for a real recovery for every american. mitt romney, his experience, his ideas, his solutions is uniquely qualified to get this job done. at a time when we have a jobs crisis in america, wouldn't it be nice to have a job creator in the white house? the choice is clear. a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic growing economy that promotes opportunity and jobs? mitt romney and i will not duck the tough issues.

>>> tonight on "nightline," it is fight night for the vice presidential contenders, as joe biden squares off against paul ryan in a tightening race with only 25 days until the election. did biden make up for president obama's last debate stumble? in the battle of the number twos. >>> know the score. the political heavyweights who helped sarah palin and george w. bush prep for their debates tell us what marks they give the vice presidential contenders for a "nightline" report card. >>> plus, right brain, left brain. could which painting you refer tell which candidate you could vote for? we test the theory that your mind might be made up for you this election. >> announcer: from the global resources of abc news, with terry moran, cynthia mcfadden and bill weir in new york city, this is a special edition of "nightline," one-on-one, the vice presidential debate. >> good evening, i'm terry moran. tonight, a feisty on-stage showdown as vice president joe biden and his republican challenger paul ryan went head-to-head for the first and only time, with time running short here. the stakes

? >> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the floor. unlike president obama, the vice president kept his eyes on his opponent smiling and shaking his head as the republican candidate attacked. >>> the hot topic of libya and the deadly assault in benghazi that killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. president obama's deputy campaign manager suggested the only reason the obama's handling of the attack is because the republicans are talking about it on the campaign trail. she said that was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible. last night, ryan blasted the white house. >> it took the president two weeks to announce it was a terr

is going to gradually ramp up until it's about a trillion dollars a year. the white house and joe biden would like to introduce that by 10%, the orange section in here. that's the part they want to get rid of. now, their opponents say this part you're getting rid of, that's real care. you are hurting people by taking away benefits. no, it's not. these are reductions and fees, payments that we're making to hospitals and health care programs. in a word this is waste, we can and should get rid of it. but now let's look at the republican pan. the same landscape. same increase up to $1 trillion and would like to reduce it by 10%, but want to rely on private sector, not the government and to do that, they are going to use vouchers. they don't really like that word, but that's what it is in its essence. right now, if you are on medicare, what happens, the government pays medicare. medicare pays the hospital. the hospital takes care of you. under this plan, the government would pay you and you would pay medicare or a private insurance company to take care of you. they believe this will create c

tweet and said you won't find a more tireless fan of the middle class than joe biden. >> a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for themselves. >> how biden reacted is getting some attention this morning. he made it abundantly clear he smiled when he thought ryan was lying. republicans are trying to paint that as smirky mocking. we're back with more after the break. stay with us. use as directed. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...allstate safe driving bonus check? what is that? so weird, right? my agent, tom, said... [ voice of dennis ] ...only allstate sends you a bonus check for every six months you're accident-free... ...but i'm a woman. maybe it's a misprint. does it look like a misprint? ok. what i was trying... [ voice of dennis ] silence. ♪ ♪ ask an allstate agent about the safe driving bonus check. are you in good hands? you've heard stephanie's views. >>no bs, authentic, the real thing. >>now, let's hear yours at the only online forum with a direct line to stephanie miller. >>the only thing that can s

.c., at the vice presidential debate tonight, detrimentally incumbent joe biden faced off against paul ryan, the sex at, stakes were high, the strong performance of mitt romney changed the race, it is now wide open with just 25 days until the election, joe biden and paul ryan competed to take control of the narrative. >> this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself but unfortunately it is indicative of a broader problem and that's what we are watching on the tv screens is the unravelling of the obama foreign policy, we cannot allow iran to gain a nuclear weapons capability. now, let's take a look at where we have come from. when barack obama was elected, they had enough fissionable ferrill to make one bomb and now they have enough five, they are racing toward a nuclear weapon and four years closer to a nuclear weapons capability. >> war should always be the absolute last resort, these why these crippling sanctions with netanyahu says we should continue if not mistaken romney says we should continue, i may be mistaken, he changed his mind so often i could be wrong, but the fact of

but there is one thing that nobody is disputing. joe biden had a lot of laughs last night. he was laughing during discussions about libya, iraq, afghanistan, the economy, taxes, and on and on. and on. now here is reaction from some fox all-stars. plus, the president, even opineed about the veep's performance. >> if you heard it on radio, biden won. if you watch it on television, he lost. >> i think he had a strong debate. but was diminished, was diminished by the smirking. he overdid it. >> it was unattractive, rude and i have a feeling it will come across to a lot of people as rude. looked like a cranky old man to some extent debating a polite young man. >> i don't believe i have ever seen a debate in which one participant was an openly disrespectful of the other, as biden was to paul ryan tonight. >> it's pretty amazing how often he was interrupting and heckling and laughing and smiling and grimacing and grinning. it's like they put joker juice in the water that he had there on the stage. >> he was so rude. he was so toothy. he was so -- >> tooth -- >> -- overdramatic. rolling his eyes. but on

again because the nats won last night. and also about joe biden's performance last night. that's the big story of the day of course. joe biden did everything last night that president obama did not do in his debate last week. he was cool, confident, cocky, convincing, and paul ryan was flustered all over the place. and every time joe biden smiled you knew paul ryan was lying. first let's with today's current news update. lisa ferguson outin los angeles. >> good morning, everyone. it was the aggressive joe biden, democrats wanted and it was an aggressive joe biden they got. >> it has been done couple of times >> it has never -- >> [ inaudible ] >> oh, now you are john kennedy. it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of americans are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. >> biden was caught smirking smiling, and even laughing through much of the debate. not sure how you could not laugh because of the lies coming from ryan. according to the twitter verse biden's most popular remark of the night was when he asked ryan now you are jack ken

. danville, kentucky, centre college. i want to thank you, joe. it's been an honor to engage in this critical debate. we face a very big choice. what kind of country are we going to be? what kind of country are we going to give our kids? president obama, he had his chance. he made his choices. his economic agenda, more spending, more borrowing, higher taxes, a government takeover of health care... it is not working. it's failed to create the jobs we need. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are in poverty. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we are offering real reforms for a real recovery for every american. mitt romney -- his experience, his ideas, his solutions, is uniquely imafled to get this -- qualified to get this job done. at a time when we have a job crisis in america, wouldn't it be nice to have a job creator in the white house? the choice is clear -- a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency. mitt romney and i will not duck the tough issues. we will not blame

respect to be president of the united states. i think he did what he had to do. i think joe biden did what he had to do. he went out and, you know, delivered the obama message in the way that i'm sure team obama wished that president had the week earlier. and i think you're right, he gave a little bit of a road map about what the president is going to do when he comes out next week. >> that was definitely a front-loaded assault, saw the ding ding ding. one point it was like what's he going to say for the next hour and a half, he said it all there. karen, i thought one of the more -- where he might have drawn blood as far as if biden actually drew blood on romney was his comments around abortion. >> yeah. >> and reminding people something that has not been discussed almost at all in this election cycle which is the supreme court decisions that may be made by the next president. take a listen to what biden said on abortion. >> the next president will get one or two supreme court nominees. that's how close roe v. wade is. >> and we know romney camp is worried about women. they've seen -- >> a

watched political debates ever. >> hey, can i call you joe? >> tonight in danville, kentucky, it's the rematch. sort of. vice presidential joe biden is back in blue. but in red tonight, it's the young congressman who wants to be known for his budget. >> i'm kind of a numbers guy. >> the poll numbers for romney and ryan soaring after the first presidential debate. democrats openly counting on joe biden tonight to stop that republican momentum. >> osama bin laden is dead and general motors is arrive. >> the 2012 vice presidential debate starts right now. >>> happy debate night, everybody. the best television series of 2011 was the republican primary debates. there were 1 million of them. they played to huge audiences week after week and never disappointed. now it is october 2012 and the most compelling thing on television anywhere in the country is once again the debates. only now there are only two candidates at a time and the stakes are way higher. i'm rachel maddow. here on our msnbc headquarters in new york. i'm joined by ed schultz, reverend al sharpton, chris hayes, steve sch

presidential debate i think was really shortchanging the issue. that said, if paul -- sorry, if joe biden drew blood last night, i thought it was on this issue in particular. this ask not an issue of contraception coverage. these aren't nuanced positions on, you know, the catholic church and reproduction. this is fundamentally the question of whether women have the right to choose, and paul ryan could not answer the question, and to many, many women from both sides of the aisle, this is something that you vote on. i mean, this is not a subtle sort of tax policy nuance. this is about having the choice to have an abortion and the dialogue that goes on between a woman and her doctor. and it was clear that the romney/ryan ticket is in a place that the obama/biden ticket is not. >> well, you made a point that i like to make. we can argue about a lot of issues as i said. there were a lot of issues debated last night like benghazi which are vitally important but not exactly a voting issue. a voting issue is an issue like gun rights to some people who are hunters or sportsmen. they will vote on that i

: "the o'reilly factor" is on. tonight -- >> so joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. >> bill: four years ago, sarah palin went up against joe biden and many think she won that debate. how did the governor prepare and what are the vice president's weak points? sarah palin will be on "the factor" tonight. >> i've always been a catholic and middle class working person. i had to stand up for my faith. vice president biden, i think he sold out to the system. >> bill: a traditional values group attacking mr. biden and using his catholic faith to do it. is that fair? the culture warriors will analyze. >> the majority of americans are in an ugly mood. >> bill: back in 1994, barak obama promoting the cause of affirmative action. this week the supreme court began another affirmative action case. megyn kelly will report. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the upcoming vice presidential debate, that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. the pressure is on congressman paul

is next. we'll see you at 9:00 tomorrow night. >> greta: last week, big bird, this week, laughing joe. twitter on fire with joe biden's smirks, sneers and cackle. the twitter handle at laughing joe biden had more than 7,000 followers take a look at the highlights from the biden-ryan faceoff. >> we will find and bring to justice the men who did this. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. he went to the un and in his speech he said six times, talk about the you tube video. look. if we're hit by terrorists we're going to call it for what it s a terrorist attack. >> we weren't told they wanted more security there. we did not know. >> there were requests for extra security. those requests were not honored. >> they're pushing continuation of tax cuts giving an additional $500 billion in tax cuts to 120,000 families. and they're holding hostage a middle class tax cut because they say we won't pass and won't continue the middle class tax cut unless you give the tax cut to the super wealthy. it's time they take responsibility. >> do you know what the un

him or not, vice president joe biden is the guy who's got everybody talking. democrats are claiming victory for biden who was feisty and fired up. republicans say his mannerisms were strange. touching off the debate about the debate. >> everybody thought it was a home run. what you saw was the passionate joe biden. i don't think he was over the top. i thought what you saw was joe biden's passion for these issues. he cares deeply about them. he speaks from the heart. that's what you got last night. >> when joe biden continued to interrupt paul and continued to get in his face, i think people were sort of questioning, okay, stop it for a second. let me hear what you're going to do differently, mr. vice president. >> i can't recall a time, frankly, in modern history, where the challenger for the vice president to the vice president bested the vice president in a debate. >> biden came out swinging, even interrupting several times to make his point. >> when we look weak, our adversaries are more willing to test us, they are more brazen in our attacks. >> with all due respect, that is a b

and observations from a zippy 90 minutes with joe biden and paul ryan. >>> they are both pushed to the brink, sadly, only one has survived. >>> a loud explosion on the streets of vallejo as police detonate bomb-making materials. they arrested a man for making bombs in his house. we'll have a live report coming up. >> and good evening, i'm ken bastida. >> i'm dana king. a couple big headlines with baseball and politics, but we want to start with a developing story. anything but an ordinary night in this north bay neighborhood where the bomb squad searched a house looking for explosives and you see what they found, the house is in the 3700 block of georgia street in vallejo. joe vasquez with more on what appears to be a bomb making factory. joe. >> dana, this situation is rattling a lot of nerves, not just because they evacuated an area near this house, but as you saw, also because they have had to detonate some of those materials right here in the middle of the georgia street. >> around 9:00 tonight, a bomb disposal team from the fbi and the solano sheriff department -- they lit a fuse and explo

>>> hi, everyone, on this friday. the news nation is following joe biden's first live event since the big debate, perhaps tossing fuel on the fire, biden said in ken between he is right now in wisconsin. paul ryan's home turf. going into the debate, the marching orders issued by democrats loud and clear, be aggressive and don't let congressman ryan go unchallenged, as the president did in his first debate with romney. >> a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> for ryan, the larger mission at least at the first ten-minute mark of the debate was to avoid being steamrolled while defending the controversial stances from governor romney. >> you weren't asked basically why i'm pro life. it's not simply because of my catholic faith. that's a factor of course. it's because of reason and science. >> life begins at conception. that's the church's judgment. >> i refuse to impose it on equally devout chri

the vice presidential candidates, no one had a bad night. nobody was too polite. instead joe biden, paul ryan, simply let it fly and when it was over the american people scored it a draw. cnn/orc poll of debate watchers showed that 48% felt that paul ryan won. 44% said that the vice president joe biden won. of course that would be a statistical tie when you calculate in the margin of error. we begin with cnn's dana bash with some of the highlights of the night. good morning. >> good morning. we were here. we watched it all. you really could feel the intensity of it from the beginning. all 90 minutes. it was very intense. there were some smiles and smirks on both sides. but all in all it was very substantive. these were two men who both came ready to tangle. >> world -- >> thank heavens -- >> reporter: on taxes. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve this important preferences for middle class taxpayers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. >> on medicare. >> they just allo medicare to bargain for the cost of drugs like medicaid can, that would sav

are working overtime. so up first here, paul ryan and joe biden battling it out in the bluegrass state, and unlike last week's presidential debate, this one had a little bit of fire. the vice president coming out swinging, ryan keeping cool and counterpunching. >> so let's go to the score cards. the cnn orc poll taken right after the debate showed 48% of the voters who watched thought paul ryan won. 44% favored joe biden. that's basically a statistical draw. senior congressional correspondent dana bash is live from danville, kentucky this morning, and dana, this was a much more spirited debate this time around, a debate with a capital "d." >> reporter: oh, it sure was. i was in the hall last night, and it was rocking and rolling from the beginning. pretty much right through the entire 90 minutes. there was some grimacing and grinning, a lot of it actually on the left. there was some smirking on the right, but all in all it was quite a substantive debate on the central issues of the day. these were two men who both came ready to tangle. >> i don't know what world these guys are in. >> r

going in from the perspective of the democrats what joe biden's aides and especially those closest to the process of them preparing was make up for the bad debate that the obama campaign knows that the president had last week. he did that and most importantly reenergizing the democratic base. that was, you know, some would argue and republicans are arguing forcefully that he did it too much that he went overboard in his reaction in making sure not to nod like the president did and on the republican side, what they wanted to make sure was that -- excuse me, paul ryan could sit on the same stage in a legitimate way with the vice president. i think that there's no question he did that. the debate that is happening right now on the twitter verse between the campaigns is what i just talked about whether or not joe biden went too far. he was rude, he was out of control and i'll bet you'll see something on saturday night live, he was doing what he had to do. >> i think you hit it on the head. that is what will show up on snl and snl had a huge impact on the presidential campaign. >> i loo

, was exposed after a no holds barred full out slugfest of a debate with vice president joe biden last night. and for democrats across the country, it is tgi biden, a man who brought the fight to congressman ryan with a huge heart and lethal honesty on everything from medicare to taxes, abortion, middle class opportunity, and foreign policy. and this afternoon the vice president landed in ryan's home turf of wisconsin hungry for more action going after romney/ryan on the 47%. >> these are the folks who talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. >> biden had the crowd fired up after a debate performance many wish the president had given. one in which he outlined a blistering attack on his opponents, delivering a flurry of punches from the opening bell. >> romney said, no, let detroit go bankrupt. we moved in and helped people refinance their homes. governor romney said, no, let foreclosures hit the bottom. but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to t

night, all bets are off. it's way too early. what time is it, willie? >> it's "morning joe." see you monday. time for chuck. >>> substance versus style. vice president joe biden brought the passion and eased the panic from the democratic debate. the smirks, the interruptions, was he too amped up? congressman paul ryan thankfully no mention of big bird but a grover did come up. norquist, that is. and a tight race, could a third guy play spoiler? it's a potential issue and a handful of swing state. we're going to take a deep dive and talk to one of those potential po potential spoilers. good morning again. it's friday, october 12th, 2012. this is the daily rundown. i'm chuck todd. i have ted strickland, ron johnson, congressman from the same party who almost came to blows. that's going to be a little later in the show. let me get to our first reads before i get to the governor who is ready to go. vice president joe biden trying to calm down supporters, still upset over president obama's performance last week went with the kitchen sink approach. congressman paul ryan embraced the do no

. >> i want to thank you as well, martha. i want to thank you, joe. it has been an honor. we face a big choice. what kind of country are we going to be? what kind of country are we going to give our kids? president obama had his chance and made his choices. his economic agenda, spending, borrowing, higher taxes, a government takeover of health care, it is not working. millions of americans are struggling to work and 15% are in poverty. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. we want to earn your support. we are offering real reforms for every american. mitt romney, his experience, ideas, and solutions are uniquely qualified to get this job done. at a time we have a jobs crisis, wouldn't it be nice to have a jobs creator in the white house? a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic that promotes opportunity and jobs. mitt romney and i will not duck the tough issues are blame others for the next four years. we will take responsibility and we will not try to replace our founding principles. we will reapply our founding principles. th

to wolf blitzer. "the situation room" begins now. >>> brooke, thanks very much. happening now, joe biden isn't the only one who's smiling today. we're looking ahead to the next round in the presidential debates including what lessons the president might want to take from his running mate's performance. also, fooling iran. we're taking you inside the real life cia thriller in movie theaters right now. >>> i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with today's double declarations of victory after the vice presidential debate. first, the republicans. in a little bit mitt romney teams up with congressman paul ryan in the swing state of ohio. and you're going to see their rally live right here in "the situation room." already today romney's called his running mate's debate performance thoughtful, respectful, steady and poised. our national political correspondent jim acosta has more now on the republican's post debate spin. >> reporter: wolf, even though paul ryan said he saw it coming, republican strategists i talk to in the post debate spin room said they were not expec

- presidential debate sparked fireworks >> . it's been done a couple times. >> joe biden and paul ryan had stark differences on domestic policy it, including how to fix the economy. >> we are going. in the wrong going the economy is barely moving along. >> for a guy who says 47% of the americans are not willing to take responsibility. they pay more effective tax and governor romney pays in its federal income taxes. >> nam le went after obama for his response to the u.s. consulate attack in libya. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. -- ryan went after obama. >> joe biden often laughed at ryan's arguments >> . joe biden understood he had to go out there and do what president obama failed to do last week. >> i thought joe biden was great to night. i cannot be prouder of him. >> i think the vice president knows that sometimes the words don't come out the right way. [laughter] >> but i always say what i mean. >> the next big debate is next tuesday when president obama and mitt romney will square off for the second round in new york. brandi hitt, abc news, ky

>>> candidates clash. sparks fly in the vice presidential debate as joe biden and paul ryan trade jabs on taxes, foreign policy and the economy in an often testy encounter. >> lower tax increase growth. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> containing the outbreak. health officials try to locate patients exposed to a deadly form of meningitis. and the firm that supplied the contaminated shots linked to the infection may have been operating illegally. >>> mayor misconduct. an elderly mayor admits to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from her city but she's not going jail. this is the "cbs morning news" for friday, october 12, 2012. good morning. good to be with you. i'm terrell brown. compared to last week's presidential debate last night's face off between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan was like a shoot out at the ok corral. from the get go it was a pull no punches performance by both candidates. they squared off on everything from th

out on the table. >> i think for a lot of partisans and folks said, yeah, go get him, joe. >> those sparks did not just fly in one direction a calm and collected paul ryan scalded his opponent with a few choice zincers of his own. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> a very clear choice, not just in a contrast in style but clear contrast in substance. >> paul was, of course, respectful and polite. paul was paul. he came on with facts and figures and a plan. >> did biden do enough to stem the bleeding and damage from president obama's lackluster first debate performance? did ryan help maintain the romney momentum? >> this is a classic case where both sides of the aisle people saw what they wanted to see. >> joining me now is brad woodhouse, communications director of the democrat national committee. thanks for joining us today. >> thanks, richard. >> the vice president is being hammered by people who say he was laughing inappropriately, very energet

exactly what happened. they changed their assessment. >> joe scarborough this morning, as well as in "the daily standard," they said this that biden throws the intelligence community under the bus. what's your thought here? was the vice president not aware of the congressional testimony that happened on tuesday? the full tick tock that had come out? it didn't sync with his answer, necessarily. >> i think there will be more to be said on this today. i'm not going to prejudge what might come out of the state department. let me just say this. what i find disgusting, and american people should find disgusting, on the night this was happening, before we knew the ambassador had been killed, mitt romney decided to politicalize a tragedy in the middle east. >> that is what the vice president said. the vice president did not answer the question properly. what's your take on that? >> i don't know whether he answered the question properly or not. i think there is more information to come out. this is the thing. republicans have rush to judgment to take political advantage of a tragedy. they are doin

was motive? >> joe biden said intelligence, we're all of our people went out and said these things based it on intelligence we were receiving at the time. in other words threw intelligence community under the bus and said top intelligence guys on clapper shop, state and all of the rest of the them this is what they said. and this wasn't our fault. >> and there is testimony in the hearing one member in the state department says night it happened that first heard everything calm at 8:30 p.m. am was door walked outside said goodbye to a turkish diplomat. an explosion at the gate. then they had phone calls to the state department in realtime they're making phone calls state department well aware of what is going on. has there been protests state department would have heard about it. it's -- this is not, they knew it. >> there is one of two explanations. one is utter incompetence in getting intelligence to the people or second thing is deceit. >> greta: you can't be incompetent on this, there is never anything to sort of -- keep your eyes on. >> they did have intelligence and put out a false

debate. i don't know if he needs to be as aggressive as joe biden was last night but aggression helps obviously in the first go around he was not. he was talking to diane sawyer. we'll see if he learned a lesson. there was hemming and hawing last time. and mitt romney talking about how he's not going to push for any abortion legislation. is that a lie? now watch president obama's reaction. >> is it a lie. >> no, i actually think his position on--when it comes to women's rights to control their own healthcare decisions what he has been say something exactly what he believes. he thinks that it is appropriate for politicians to inject themselves in those decisions. >> cenk: let's come out a little clearer. let's come out a little stronger. i don't know if president obama can get himself from stopping this habit of pausing before every half sentence, and seeing it through. it's okay. you got your position. go out and say it. that's my opinion. let's bring michael shure back. he's in san francisco. any chance that president obama looked at biden debate and thought maybe i should go more in

. >> stories we're watching in the newsroom, verbal slugfest. joe biden squares off with paul ryan. who won, who lost? this morning we're asking is anyone really changing their vote? >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean a bunch of stuff? >> it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it is. we irish call it mularkey. >> thanks for the translation. >> verbal fire works between the two vice presidential candidates. this debate had some real horsepower and we've got the lowdown for you. >>> turning to prayers, scores of pakistanis are showing their support for a 14-year-old activist who survived an assassination attempt by the the taliban. now dozens of people have been arrested in the case. >>> moving times, space shuttle "endeavour" begins a two-day, 12-mile trip on the streets of l.a. we're taking you there live. "newsroom" starts right now. >>> good morning, everyone. i'm don lemon in for carol co costello. glad it's friday. i know you were up late, watching the debate. all it needed was a ring announcer, right? prime time slug fest known as the

. >> joe biden and paul ryan turn up the heat. trading blows oefrg from foreign policy to jobs and taxes. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. >> romney's a good man. he cares about 100% of americans in this country. >> oecd chief tells cnbc spain's prime minister isn't asking because there's a real fear leaders would possibly say no. >>> and investors hang up on japanese. it may be too costly. >> plus jpmorgan and wells fargo are set to report third quarter results. >>> this is the last trading day of the week here. and we have the i-8 report out that sees pricing easing. they have lowered their growth forecast, though. and it says iran exports hit a new low in september. so there's obviously a bit of a difference between what's going on in the short term forecast and the longer term, as well. so they're looking at annual supply growth of #.5 million barrels a day, average oil demand growth of 1.1 million a day. so over the next five years, sluggish economy will slow oil demand growth and mo

: allen, vice president joe biden will get the first question tonight and he is also giving his closing statement first. paul ryan will have the final word with his closing statement. and while neither are strangers to debate, they both represent opposite spectrums not just in ideology but also in style. >> reporter: vice president joe biden touched down in kentucky eager to square off with republican challenger paul ryan. congressman ryan says he is looking forward getting out the republican ticket's message. >> i'm excited because we have a chance yet again to offer this country a very clear choice. >> reporter: for ryan, tonight is an opportunity to build on mitt romney's strong performance in the first presidential debate. the pressure is on for vice president biden to stop that momentum. >> i expect it to be a home run for biden. >> i anticipate paul ryan's going to clean up tonight. >> reporter: recent polls show likely voters expect paul ryan to have the upper hand tonight. but this supporter believes it will be closer. >> i think it will be a draw. they are both qualified, good

that they knew. that was the assessment. >> that was also what joe biden got the most negative ratings of the entire debate among the undecided voters i was with last night. now, why was this comment so controversial? well, because those voters alreawere still wondering why the request for more security in libya was turned down. a security officer in libya was questioned about that very issue this week. >> you were asking for more assets, more resources, more personnel. that was denied, but the state department went back and reclassified it as more dangerous, the danger pay therefore increased. they didn't sell you the we didn't have resources, congress just cut your budget, they gave you an increase because the danger was rising, correct? >> that's correct. we received a danger pay increase. >> so, when joe biden said we knew nothing about this request for security, who is the we? well, jay carney, the white house spokesman in a white house briefing today cleared that up. >> he was speaking directly for himself and for the president. he meant the white house. >> so, if the president a

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